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翔翔嗯
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你是不是计划买一个苹果笔记本啊
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对哪个型号
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我想买pro多少钱
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2000吧
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那你为什么不早点提啊
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你知道现在涨多少钱了吗
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嗯20%差不多
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现在应该是2500了
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你知道为什么苹果最近涨价这么厉害吗
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是因为它的内存就是涨价了
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没错它的供应商美光给他全面提价
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所以他不得不涨价
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你觉得苹果涨价之后会不会影响它的销量呀
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那肯定会它涨太高了
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那如果涨价涨那么多
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你还会买吗
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应该先不会买了
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那你说明你还是挺会过日子的哈
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对你可以先用用我那个老笔记本
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然后我问你啊
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就是苹果过去的时候
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他为什么可以议价能力很强
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对生产厂家可以说不
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为什么
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现在生产厂家给他涨了好几倍甚至七八倍
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他还不得不买
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什么原因呢
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你知道吗
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嗯是什么原因
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就是因为数据中心
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你现在是不是经常用车DEVT啊
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嗯还有GEMINI
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对呀
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那我问你
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你知道车DEVT和jam i
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从哪里训练出来的吗
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是从他们的是不是数据中心中心
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那数据中心那些数据是怎么存储的
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是用这个内存
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是不是用这个
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它是比这个手机和电脑的内存啊
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嗯要强大很多的
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叫HBMH
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我们手机还有笔记本电脑
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还有台式机呢是用DDDR
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你知道HBM的利润是DDDR的多少倍吗
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好像是5~10倍
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没错
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5~10倍
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那如果说你开了一个内存卡
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这边有5~10倍高于原的产品5~10倍的利润
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那你你是生产手机和电脑的内存
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还是生产数据中心的内存
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肯定是数据中心对
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这就是为什么三星海力士
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包括美光给苹果涨价
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苹果不得不买的原因是它的产能是有限的
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他给的数据中心没法给你了
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他想给你
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他必须要涨价达到虽然达不到hp m的利润
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但是他也要求接近
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所以苹果不得不低头
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在过去的时候啊
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这种事情会出现吗
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不会过去的时候
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苹果是老大
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所有林厂家不得不给他低头
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甚至不挣钱也得给他干
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是不是
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所以在2324年之前呢
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这些内存厂家都快倒闭了
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都是利润都是负的哈
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但是为什么现在净利润多少
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你知道吗
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呃像这个海星吗
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是叫三星海力士对三星昨天发的财报
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你的净利润多少吗
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280亿一个G
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上个季度挣了280亿
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净利润七八十七八十%
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你知道苹果的净利润多大吗
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嗯300多亿吧
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对上个季度苹果赚了350亿
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但是美国一个季度挣了280亿
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但是呢毛利润苹果的毛利也只有四五十个点
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净利润也只有20多个点
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但是像这些内存厂家呢都八九十个点的毛利
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七八十年的净利润
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所以今天如果让你选择投资一家公司
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你是投苹果还是投三星
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海力士
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美光呢
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肯定是买三星海力士
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还有美光
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嘿嘿嘿嘿
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那你还挺聪明的
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那我问你啊
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如果接下来扩产怎么办呢
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比如说内存的周期很强
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过去的时候内存股总是跌跌起伏啊
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首先市场需求量增加
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然后呢然后利润提升
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然后扩产
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扩产完之后产能过剩
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然后利润暴跌
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然后呢又开始进入亏损周期了
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那过去都是这种亏损周期
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那你现在你还敢重仓存储吗
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万一再到了这种周期怎么办
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嗯那我会先看看你怎么读啊
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实际上HBM的这个周期呢
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和DDDR的周期是不一样的
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DDR呢中国还有唐兴
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还有长江
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那嗯美国呢就是西部数据镁光
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还有闪迪啊
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然后真正做HM就三家
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就是三星海力士
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还有闪
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还有那个还有美国
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就这三家过去的时候有很多家
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所以HM的扩产是很难的
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至少在一到两年内
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他们的利润还能维持
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所以呢你要是真的买存储的话呢
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你可以找个机会
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比如说暴跌的机会好
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但是呢苹果你还敢买吗
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先不买了吧
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有点高哈哈肯定不能买
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因为你现在要买了
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苹果万一下个季度销量暴跌
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那你真的掉坑里了
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嗯现在的估值你知道苹果多少倍吗
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嗯多少倍
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苹果的话30多倍
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34倍
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你知道美光多少倍吗
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嗯20倍25倍
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你要拉长时间动态的P
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你知道镁光S3星海力是多少倍吗
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多少倍
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你就算一个账啊
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现在美国的市值的话大概1.2万亿美金
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但一个季度挣280亿
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全年下来将近1200个亿
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也就是说折了它的市值也就十倍的动态PE1
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所以下个季度有可能苹果会利润下降
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销量下降可能不是30~35倍了
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可能35~40倍了
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所以如果今天选
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你会选什么
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三星海力士
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诶
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嘿嘿嘿嘿嘿嘿
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可以可以可以
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如果啊内存最近
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那我给你占一台苹果笔记本
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舅舅给你买
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好好不好好